What are you trying to achieve with this issue? It seems to be a good idea, and these are places to start but it seems like it needs a long term goal for how it will actually have impact. Are your trying to convince schools/universities to immerse students in making? Or after school/ extra curricular clubs to immerse them? Or their parents at home? Or are we setting up our own events to immerse stuents? All are good, but it is good to have a core focus.
Assuming one of the first 2… How do you plan to disseminate information to convince people to set up a space/lesson to immerse students? I assume you are going to write something once you have the list of research someone is going to write a piece about how great making is for development, and use the list as references? Maybe a nice, easy to browse website, about why and how to set up such a space?
I think it would be good to cost up some basic equipment because I am sure some people think the tools needed cost far more than they do. Also maybe something on basic health and safety?
I am not saying we need an exact target and a snazzy website in the near future. I just think it is good to have an idea what the goal is, and how you might achieve it before you start.
@julianstirling I understand this issue was phrased like that at Gosh 2018, no? (I didn’t attend) If that’s the case then it is supposed to be broad and open so maybe more people can get excited and start contributing with ideas and then actions. It isn’t something @kshitizkhanal7 only will be focusing on, right? I guess @kshitizkhanal7 was trying to open up the discussion, brainstorm.
There are indeed several points of entry to this issue, so maybe the best strategy, having in mind the diversity of people in Gosh, is not to close it too much, but open it up at the beginning. And then certainly not look for a one-size-fits-all solution for all those in the community who want to engage in related activities.
Personally, I’m interested in immersing students, but also teachers, researchers, activists, and pretty random people with no academic background into making/hacking/non… learning environments where they can actually mingle and see themselves as equals, collaborate to a high degree, etc. We recently wrote with @gpereyrairujoabout our experiences trying to do exactly this, and the many hurdles we faced. I’m sure there are many others who have tried this route in the last few years.
@paz I completely see your point that having the issue broad encourages participation. What I worry about is having something so vague that it is hard for others to see how to get involved. Also it is very hard for others in the community to follow up on is happening, and we should be doing but aren’t.
One of the things we have been trying to do on GitLab since Gosh 2018 is tidy up the Roadmap issues, so where possible there is a scope that the lead assigned to the issue can monitor. I didn’t mean to shutdown the brainstorming, I just though it would be good to focus the brainstorming somewhat, and have people consider what the are working towards while doing it.
@julianstirling, @paz, thank you both for your responses. I also think that it’s better not to make our goal too specific at this point. Different organizations have been immersing students in making in ways that align with the ethos of GOSH community. We can learn from all of them and use the learning to come up with specific goals at some point in time. Maybe we can start by sketching some broader goals as a start. @julianstirling’s other questions and suggestions are important to consider.